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	<title>Comments on: Pedro&#8217;s Ice Wax 2.0</title>
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		<title>By: S. Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ran this lube on my rode bike for couple of months (june july).  I followed the instructions and made sure my chain was completely clean before applying Pedro&#039;s Ice Wax.  I put it on, let it dry for the recomended 10 minutes.  
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&lt;br /&gt;At first I thought it was great, everything ran smoothly, the chain stayed clean, just like it was supposed to.  My first ride was only about 12 miles, and it was to work.  The instructions say to reapply after every ride.  I now realize this should have been a clue.  I did not reapply for the trip home from work, being only 12 miles I thought it could just count as the same ride.  
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&lt;br /&gt;On my way home I noticed that the chain just sounded dry, now granted this is a &quot;dry lube&quot; so I just figured that is how it is supposed to be.  But just to be safe I was diligent about applying it after every ride regardless of the length and putting it on thick sometimes even twice.  I tried  many combinations of heavy and light applications.  
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&lt;br /&gt;So here is the bottom line, I used this product per the instructions and the results are as follows.  
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&lt;br /&gt;If you are riding less than 20 miles it works fine no problems.
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&lt;br /&gt;20-40 miles your chain starts to make noise like it&#039;s getting stiff and your shifting begins to suffer.
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&lt;br /&gt;50-60 miles your chain begins to squeek and it sounds like your riding your grandmothers bike that hasn&#039;t been lubed since 1960.
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&lt;br /&gt;I rode a fair amount, nearly 500 miles during my trial period, I feel I gave this product a fair chance, I really tried to make it work, and I found it does, as long as you lube your chain every 20 miles.  
&lt;br /&gt;In my opinion this product is &quot;basura&quot;.  (Spanish for garbage) 
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Rating: 1 / 5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran &#116;&#104;&#105;&#115; lube &#111;&#110; &#109;&#121; rode bike &#102;&#111;&#114; couple &#111;&#102; months (june july).  I followed &#116;&#104;&#101; instructions &#97;&#110;&#100; &#109;&#97;&#100;&#101; sure &#109;&#121; chain &#119;&#97;&#115; completely &#99;&#108;&#101;&#97;&#110; before applying Pedro&#8217;s Ice Wax.  I &#112;&#108;&#97;&#99;&#101; &#105;&#116; &#111;&#110;, &#108;&#101;&#116; &#105;&#116; dry &#102;&#111;&#114; &#116;&#104;&#101; recomended 10 minutes.  </p>
<p>&#65;&#116; first I &#116;&#104;&#111;&#117;&#103;&#104;&#116; &#105;&#116; &#119;&#97;&#115; &#102;&#97;&#110;&#116;&#97;&#115;&#116;&#105;&#99;, everything ran smoothly, &#116;&#104;&#101; chain stayed &#99;&#108;&#101;&#97;&#110;, &#106;&#117;&#115;&#116; &#108;&#105;&#107;&#101; &#105;&#116; &#119;&#97;&#115; supposed &#116;&#111;.  &#77;&#121; first ride &#119;&#97;&#115; &#111;&#110;&#108;&#121; &#97;&#98;&#111;&#117;&#116; 12 miles, &#97;&#110;&#100; &#105;&#116; &#119;&#97;&#115; &#116;&#111; work.  &#84;&#104;&#101; instructions &#115;&#97;&#121; &#116;&#111; reapply &#97;&#102;&#116;&#101;&#114; &#101;&#118;&#101;&#114;&#121; ride.  I now realize &#116;&#104;&#105;&#115; &#115;&#104;&#111;&#117;&#108;&#100; &#104;&#97;&#118;&#101; &#98;&#101;&#101;&#110; a clue.  I &#100;&#105;&#100; &#110;&#111;&#116; reapply &#102;&#111;&#114; &#116;&#104;&#101; trip home &#102;&#114;&#111;&#109; work, being &#111;&#110;&#108;&#121; 12 miles I &#116;&#104;&#111;&#117;&#103;&#104;&#116; &#105;&#116; &#99;&#111;&#117;&#108;&#100; &#106;&#117;&#115;&#116; count &#97;&#115; &#116;&#104;&#101; same ride.  </p>
<p>&#79;&#110; &#109;&#121; way home I noticed &#116;&#104;&#97;&#116; &#116;&#104;&#101; chain &#106;&#117;&#115;&#116; sounded dry, now granted &#116;&#104;&#105;&#115; &#105;&#115; a &#8220;dry lube&#8221; &#115;&#111; I &#106;&#117;&#115;&#116; figured &#116;&#104;&#97;&#116; &#105;&#115; &#104;&#111;&#119; &#105;&#116; &#105;&#115; supposed &#116;&#111; &#98;&#101;.  &#66;&#117;&#116; &#106;&#117;&#115;&#116; &#116;&#111; &#98;&#101; safe I &#119;&#97;&#115; diligent &#97;&#98;&#111;&#117;&#116; applying &#105;&#116; &#97;&#102;&#116;&#101;&#114; &#101;&#118;&#101;&#114;&#121; ride regardless &#111;&#102; &#116;&#104;&#101; length &#97;&#110;&#100; putting &#105;&#116; &#111;&#110; thick sometimes even twice.  I tried  many combinations &#111;&#102; heavy &#97;&#110;&#100; light applications.  </p>
<p>&#83;&#111; here &#105;&#115; &#116;&#104;&#101; bottom line, I used &#116;&#104;&#105;&#115; product per &#116;&#104;&#101; instructions &#97;&#110;&#100; &#116;&#104;&#101; results &#97;&#114;&#101; &#97;&#115; follows.  </p>
<p>&#73;&#102; &#121;&#111;&#117; &#97;&#114;&#101; riding less &#116;&#104;&#97;&#110; 20 miles &#105;&#116; works fine &#110;&#111; problems.</p>
<p>20-40 miles &#121;&#111;&#117;&#114; chain &#115;&#116;&#97;&#114;&#116;&#115; &#116;&#111; &#109;&#97;&#107;&#101; noise &#108;&#105;&#107;&#101; &#105;&#116;&#8217;s getting stiff &#97;&#110;&#100; &#121;&#111;&#117;&#114; shifting &#115;&#116;&#97;&#114;&#116;&#115; &#116;&#111; suffer.</p>
<p>50-60 miles &#121;&#111;&#117;&#114; chain &#115;&#116;&#97;&#114;&#116;&#115; &#116;&#111; squeek &#97;&#110;&#100; &#105;&#116; sounds &#108;&#105;&#107;&#101; &#121;&#111;&#117;&#114; riding &#121;&#111;&#117;&#114; grandmothers bike &#116;&#104;&#97;&#116; hasn&#8217;t &#98;&#101;&#101;&#110; lubed &#115;&#105;&#110;&#99;&#101; 1960.</p>
<p>I rode a &#104;&#111;&#110;&#101;&#115;&#116; amount, nearly 500 miles during &#109;&#121; trial period, I feel I gave &#116;&#104;&#105;&#115; product a &#104;&#111;&#110;&#101;&#115;&#116; chance, I really tried &#116;&#111; &#109;&#97;&#107;&#101; &#105;&#116; work, &#97;&#110;&#100; I found &#105;&#116; &#100;&#111;&#101;&#115;, &#97;&#115; long &#97;&#115; &#121;&#111;&#117; lube &#121;&#111;&#117;&#114; chain &#101;&#118;&#101;&#114;&#121; 20 miles.<br />
<br />&#73;&#110; &#109;&#121; opinion &#116;&#104;&#105;&#115; product &#105;&#115; &#8220;basura&#8221;.  (Spanish &#102;&#111;&#114; garbage)<br />
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Rating: 1 / 5</p>
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		<title>By: icedtea1954</title>
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		<dc:creator>icedtea1954</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ride about 50 miles per week, and Ice Wax is my favorite lube - I&#039;ve been using it for about 3 years.  I *really* dislike having to clean grunge off my chain, and with Ice Wax I can go most of a season without any buildup.  Just add more every day (or few days, if you do mostly short rides).  But it does have limitations:
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&lt;br /&gt;1.  It doesn&#039;t like to get wet.  I do ride in damp conditions frequently (upstate NY, year-round), but I don&#039;t slosh through puddles, and I don&#039;t ride in rainstorms (not on purpose, anyway).  If the chain gets wet, you have to reapply the lube.
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&lt;br /&gt;2.  You have to use a lot more than you may be used to, if you&#039;re switching from oil-based lube.  With oil-based lubes, it&#039;s very important to not use too much, to avoid grunge.  With Ice Wax, slosh it on, the more the better.
Rating: 4 / 5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ride &#97;&#98;&#111;&#117;&#116; 50 miles per week, &#97;&#110;&#100; Ice Wax &#105;&#115; &#109;&#121; favorite lube &#8211; I&#8217;ve &#98;&#101;&#101;&#110; using &#105;&#116; &#102;&#111;&#114; &#97;&#98;&#111;&#117;&#116; 3 years.  I *really* dislike having &#116;&#111; &#99;&#108;&#101;&#97;&#110; grunge &#111;&#102;&#102; &#109;&#121; chain, &#97;&#110;&#100; &#119;&#105;&#116;&#104; Ice Wax I &#99;&#97;&#110; &#103;&#111; &#109;&#111;&#115;&#116; &#111;&#102; a season without &#97;&#110;&#121; buildup.  &#74;&#117;&#115;&#116; add more &#101;&#118;&#101;&#114;&#121; day (&#111;&#114; few days, &#105;&#102; &#121;&#111;&#117; &#100;&#111; mostly small rides).  &#66;&#117;&#116; &#105;&#116; &#100;&#111;&#101;&#115; &#104;&#97;&#118;&#101; limitations:</p>
<p>1.  &#73;&#116; doesn&#8217;t &#108;&#105;&#107;&#101; &#116;&#111; &#103;&#101;&#116; wet.  I &#100;&#111; ride &#105;&#110; damp conditions frequently (upstate NY, year-round), &#98;&#117;&#116; I don&#8217;t slosh through puddles, &#97;&#110;&#100; I don&#8217;t ride &#105;&#110; rainstorms (&#110;&#111;&#116; &#111;&#110; purpose, anyway).  &#73;&#102; &#116;&#104;&#101; chain gets wet, &#121;&#111;&#117; &#104;&#97;&#118;&#101; &#116;&#111; reapply &#116;&#104;&#101; lube.</p>
<p>2.  &#89;&#111;&#117; &#104;&#97;&#118;&#101; &#116;&#111; &#117;&#115;&#101; a lot more &#116;&#104;&#97;&#110; &#121;&#111;&#117; &#109;&#97;&#121; &#98;&#101; used &#116;&#111;, &#105;&#102; &#121;&#111;&#117;&#8217;re switching &#102;&#114;&#111;&#109; oil-based lube.  &#87;&#105;&#116;&#104; oil-based lubes, &#105;&#116;&#8217;s very vital &#116;&#111; &#110;&#111;&#116; &#117;&#115;&#101; &#116;&#111;&#111; much, &#116;&#111; avoid grunge.  &#87;&#105;&#116;&#104; Ice Wax, slosh &#105;&#116; &#111;&#110;, &#116;&#104;&#101; more &#116;&#104;&#101; better.<br />
Rating: 4 / 5</p>
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